José Maza: "master beam for development is not copper, is the intelligence of the 17 million"

José Maza: "master beam for development is not copper, is the intelligence of the 17 million"

The astronomer completed a hectic schedule on the Bío Bío, which culminated with a massive talk in the Amphitheater of San Pedro de la Paz.

A personal record broke on Friday in San Pedro de la Paz the astronomer andPremio Nacional de Ciencias Exactas1999,José Maza.

In the framework of the celebration of the week of the astronomy, his talk"We are star dust"it brought together 5 thousand people in the"Amphitheater of the commune.

"I have given more than 500 lectures in my life. If this we reach the 2 thousand, have beaten the brand", recognized sparingly Maza in the anteroom. Its aim, says, is to bring science to these popular, "not always preach among converts" spaces.

-He had the opportunity to encourage discussions on Science and directly to question presidential candidates. What such experience?

-It was a very enriching experience. Of the eight candidates, none of them dying by science. Some science cared very little. Others, enough to speak well of the topic, but not to say "I'm going to put money in case of being President". I could ask questions, say "How do you think investing 10 times less than the percentage of GDP will be a developed country, if the others spend a 4 and us a 0.4". "There are other needs," I said. Well, Yes, there are other needs, doubt is worth, but if we don't do a real investment, we will never be a developed country. We cannot say that we will wait to develop the country by grace of the Virgen del Carmen and there will begin to invest.

-Do the countries decide that science is a necessity?

-Israel, AFAIK, is not a country that is in a State of idyllic peace. However, it is a country that invests 4.5% of its GDP on research and development. Finland, with which Chile is compared, invests 4%. And us with a 0.38, are going to get to the big leagues? Are we going to achieve them? Are we 10 times smarter than them? I don't think so. On the other hand, and I arrogantly said, people have the utopia that having silver we will have development. We can have material goods, but what matters at the end of the day is what you have in your head. Chile will never be a developed country if it does not develop intelligence, brain, its 17 million 500 thousand inhabitants. Master beam for development is not copper, saltpeter was not and will the lithium. It is the intelligence of the 17 million Chileans.

-Do you achieve, in addition to investing?

-One sees it, there are many people who has lived all his life and has not learned to think. When someone does not learn to think when child... This is like the body flexibility. If you want to be the Bolshoi dancer, if you are not working since age 4, 25 not you accepted at the Bolshoi. You can no longer be a dancer in shaft. The same goes for the head. Ignorance you becomes a believer, is not a religious sense, but that only after you say "I think that this is the case," but rigorous thinking you have to be to say "this I know so and so" or "this I don't know, I will study". Always distinguish what is known and what not.

-That is the role of education.

-There is an expression, say that it is an Arabic saying... "The eyes are nothing to a blind brain." I believe that education is that, to open the brain to children so they can see what eyes delivered to them, so that they can understand what their eyes tell them. Because one can look and do not understand anything. When you have 40 children, the teacher the first thing you want is to be silent. That they don't ask anything. No! We must show them things, take out them.

-Do good education counteracts the material cares?

-Absolutely. If a child leave it sitting and never moves, you will not be Tomás González. If you leave it sitting head, you will never be able to do a complex reasoning. And this remains. We are coming to have academics that tomorrow will be really illiterate.

-How stops the vicious circle?

-Chile was an illiterate in the 19th century country because imported to no one that the vast majority was illiterate. At the beginning of the 20th century is advanced, but parcializadamente. Now it seems that there is a citizenship and public opinion, but all dominate the media. The powers that be don't want us to know think. It is much easier to control a group who cannot think.

-Is there an update to the Chile of 19th and 20th century?

-Clear. In the 19th century we were illiterate. In the 20th century, they had to drop a little. In the 21st century, what I do at least is clucky so that people know not only reading and writing, but so that you understand what you read.

-It was particularly hard with Pinera when I was a candidate. Do you think the same thing of it?

-I had a small disagreement with the current President, because I took an inappropriate word. There was also a bit of malice to get that expression of the theme. But the candidate, now President, said that it would increase investment in science. It is not a very strong bet, but I recognize that ultimately it is a bet.